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Subject: HP Integral PC Specs
Message-ID: <6200049@hp-pcd.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 4-Mar-85 13:59:00 EST
Article-I.D.: hp-pcd.6200049
Posted: Mon Mar 4 13:59:00 1985
Date-Received: Wed, 6-Mar-85 14:17:20 EST
Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Corvallis, OR
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Nf-From: hp-pcd!jim Mar 4 10:59:00 1985
Here is a rundown on the Integral PC from Hewlett-Packard:
Standard machine:
=================
Portable Personal Computer running UNIX** System III
built into ROM. Standard built-in floppy, ink-jet printer,
electroluminescent display, IEEE-488 interface. $4995.00
Processor: Motorola 68000 at 8Mhz clock rate
Graphics: HP Graphics Processing Unit attached to
32K of dedicated display memory
Internal Memory:
256K ROM - contains HP-UX* kernel, window manager,
and rom disc. The rom disc contains a
Personal Applications Manager (PAM), which is
a user-friendly visual shell.
512K RAM built in. The two card slots in the back
allow the ram to be expanded to 1.5Meg with two
512K RAM cards, or more by plugging a port
expander into a card slot (Expandable to over
7 Megabytes).
Mass storage:
Built-in double-sided double-density 3 1/2 inch
microfloppy disc drive. Capacity is
710K bytes (512 bytes per sector, 9 sectors per
track, 80 tracks per surface, 2 recording surfaces
per disc).
600 RPM rotational speed.
350 milliseconds average access time.
Display:
9 inch electroluminescent (EL) display
255 by 512 pixel, bit-mapped display
The windows are standard 24 x 80 character size.
The display has an adjustable viewing angle (5 to 17
degrees in 2 degree steps).
Keyboard: 90 key full travel keyboard, 8 function keys,
numeric pad, can be remapped.
Printer: Built-in ThinkJet Personal Printer.
Ink-jet dot-matrix at 150cps, 1K printer buffer,
operates at 50 decibels (quiet!).
I/O: Built-in HPIB (IEEE-488) interface.
Software shipped with the machine:
5 - microfloppy discs worth.
* tutor disc
* HP-UX commands
32 of the high-use UNIX** commands, this
includes vi, csh, sh.
* HP-UX utilities
User-friendly utilities for formatting discs,
copying discs, etc
* System disc - contains loadable drivers
* Standard applications - contains ed, adventure,
mille, rpn (a calculator), font editor
Fully transportable integrated package: No charge
Weight: 25 pounds (11.4 kilograms)
Size: 7 inches deep by 13 inches high by 16 inches wide
(17.5 cm by 32.5 cm by 40 cm)
Price: $4995.00
*HP-UX is Hewlett-Packard's implementation of the AT&T UNIX**
Operating System (The Integral is based on Bell System III).
**UNIX is a trademark of AT&T Technologies.
=================
Other goodies:
256K byte RAM card $ 695
512K byte RAM card 1495
RS-232C Serial Interface 195
300/1200 Baud modem card 595
Mouse 195
Bus expander 1495
Hard discs hook up to the HPIB (IEEE-488 interface), e.g.
9134D 14.8 Meg (formatted) $3040
Software:
Microsoft Multiplan $ 295
Memomaker (editor) 195
Calculator 75
C Compiler 295
HP-UX Technical Basic 295
Datacomm 150
Microtrak (Pert charter) 775
HP-UX Development system TBA
(Everything else in UNIX)
.
.
.
=================
Performance:
The following tables are derived from tests run here
and figures reported in the August 1985 issue of BYTE
in an article titled 'Benchmarking UNIX Systems'
written by David F. Hinnant.
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1. Pipe 2. System Call 3. Func Call
Computer Version real user sys real user sys real
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VAX-11/750 4.1 BSD 4.6 0.2 2.1 7.0 0.9 6.2 1.7
=>Integral 12.1 0.1 12.1 12.1 0.3 11.9 1.7
IBM PC XT PC/IX 16.6 0.1 7.6 39.8 2.9 35.6 4.7
PDP-11/23 VENIX 30.0 0.1 9.5 24.0 3.2 20.4 3.3
TRS-80 16B XENIX 8.0 0.1 3.4 15.0 1.5 12.7 1.4
Apple Lisa SYS III+ 8.1 0.0 3.0 10.5 0.2 9.1 1.3
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4. Sieve 5a. Disc Write 5b. Disc read
Computer Version real user sys real real
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VAX-11/750 4.1 BSD 2.4 2.7 0.1 3.0 8.0
=>Integral 4.4 4.3 0.1 24.5 32.5
IBM PC XT PC/IX 8.2 7.8 0.3 11.6 20.7
PDP-11/23 VENIX 5.5 5.1 0.1 11.6 33.7
TRS-80 16B XENIX 6.0 4.8 0.3 8.0 22.0
Apple Lisa SYS III+ 6.1 5.3 0.1 20.8 44.5
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
6. Shell 7. Loop
Computer Version real user sys real user sys
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VAX-11/750 4.1 BSD 3.9 0.4 1.5 5.1 4.9 0.1
=>Integral 20.2 1.0 18.4 11.6 11.4 0.2
IBM PC XT PC/IX 8.5 1.1 3.2 32.2 31.5 0.3
PDP-11/23 VENIX 12.0 0.7 4.8 26.0 25.2 0.1
TRS-80 16B XENIX 18.0 0.4 2.6 14.0 12.5 0.5
Apple Lisa SYS III+ 37.6 0.4 3.2 14.0 14.9 0.2
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number of Concurrent processes
Computer Version 1 2 3 4 5
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VAX-11/750 4.1 BSD 4.3 5.5 8.8 10.3 13.3
=>Integral 14.6 28.2 40.0 55.7 1:08.8
IBM PC XT PC/IX 10.6 23.4 42.8 1:14.1 1:24.2
PDP-11/23 VENIX 14.0 32.8 - - -
TRS-80 16B XENIX 20.0 24.5 33.0 56.5 1:10.5
Apple Lisa SYS III+ 38.1 1:14.8 1:54.5 2:34.2 3:14.6
=====================================================
Disclaimer: Hewlett-Packard is not responsible for any errors or
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From: eug...@ames.UUCP (Eugene Miya)
Newsgroups: net.micro
Subject: Re: HP Integral PC Specs
Message-ID: <851@ames.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 6-Mar-85 12:06:07 EST
Article-I.D.: ames.851
Posted: Wed Mar 6 12:06:07 1985
Date-Received: Thu, 7-Mar-85 17:22:47 EST
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>
>
> Here is a rundown on the Integral PC from Hewlett-Packard:
> Software shipped with the machine:
> 5 - microfloppy discs worth.
> * HP-UX commands
> 32 of the high-use UNIX** commands, this
> includes vi, csh, sh.
>
> HP-UX Development system TBA
> (Everything else in UNIX)
two hp reps brought one of these machines to my office. five of us hobbled
over to a larger room. it's an impressive machine for it's size and what it
does. i want to emphasize the above points: the version we had some 20
commands from what most users would call /bin or /usr/bin [ and /usr/ucb
if you are running bsd].
after a few minutes you get tired of hearing the floppy turn [they
also said there is a fan in the thing: it was pretty quiet]. you
really have to have the 55 MB disk to appreciate it. the Development
environment has pwb, wwb, as well as 'the rest.' [ this includes uucp. just
think you can have a portable roving uucp node!] this means no languages
on the bare machine except hp-basic. speed and screen resolution are ok.
the printer goes for 500 pages before a new head assembly is needed
[really small thing, inexpensive, a smoother than plain paper is needed].
the hp-ib appears to be a nice thing to have. the process limit
is fixed around 10, i think, + or - a few: we had the window manager
and two shells running as well. the mouse has different semantics.
you have to test drive this machine. i'll wait for the lap-sized
version of this machine in the future {must have more storage}, it
weighs [they said] 25 lbs. i think our model was 30 [i carry a 20 lbs
mac to and from work, when well].
--eugene miya
NASA Ames Research Center
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From: j...@hp-pcd.UUCP (jay)
Newsgroups: net.micro
Subject: Re: HP Integral PC Specs
Message-ID: <6200050@hp-pcd.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 9-Mar-85 12:15:00 EST
Article-I.D.: hp-pcd.6200050
Posted: Sat Mar 9 12:15:00 1985
Date-Received: Sun, 10-Mar-85 08:16:43 EST
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Nf-From: hp-pcd!jay Mar 7 09:15:00 1985
A perusal of the source codes shows that the process limit
is 40. The maximum number of windows is 26. The limit that
most people run into is the amount of RAM available. Since we
do not swap, when you run out of memory, you're not allowed to
exec any more processes.
Jay Phillips
HP Portable Computer Division
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From: j...@hp-pcd.UUCP (jim)
Newsgroups: net.micro.hp
Subject: HP Integral PC specs
Message-ID: <77900002@hp-pcd.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 18-Mar-85 12:21:00 EST
Article-I.D.: hp-pcd.77900002
Posted: Mon Mar 18 12:21:00 1985
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Nf-From: hp-pcd!jim Mar 18 09:21:00 1985
Here is a rundown on the Integral PC from Hewlett-Packard:
Standard machine:
=================
Portable Personal Computer running UNIX** System III
built into ROM. Standard built-in floppy, ink-jet printer,
electroluminescent display, IEEE-488 interface. $4995.00
Processor: Motorola 68000 at 8Mhz clock rate
Graphics: HP Graphics Processing Unit attached to
32K of dedicated display memory
Internal Memory:
256K ROM - contains HP-UX* kernel, window manager,
and rom disc. The rom disc contains a
Personal Applications Manager (PAM), which is
a user-friendly visual shell.
512K RAM built in. The two card slots in the back
allow the ram to be expanded to 1.5Meg with two
512K RAM cards, or more by plugging a port
expander into a card slot (Expandable to over
7 Megabytes).
Mass storage:
Built-in double-sided double-density 3 1/2 inch
microfloppy disc drive. Capacity is
710K bytes (512 bytes per sector, 9 sectors per
track, 80 tracks per surface, 2 recording surfaces
per disc).
600 RPM rotational speed.
350 milliseconds average access time.
Display:
9 inch electroluminescent (EL) display
255 by 512 pixel, bit-mapped display
The windows are standard 24 x 80 character size.
The display has an adjustable viewing angle (5 to 17
degrees in 2 degree steps).
Keyboard: 90 key full travel keyboard, 8 function keys,
numeric pad, can be remapped.
Printer: Built-in ThinkJet Personal Printer.
Ink-jet dot-matrix at 150cps, 1K printer buffer,
operates at 50 decibels (quiet!).
I/O: Built-in HPIB (IEEE-488) interface.
Software shipped with the machine:
5 - microfloppy discs worth.
* tutor disc
* HP-UX commands
32 of the high-use UNIX** commands, this
includes vi, csh, sh.
* HP-UX utilities
User-friendly utilities for formatting discs,
copying discs, etc
* System disc - contains loadable drivers
* Standard applications - contains ed, adventure,
mille, rpn (a calculator), font editor
Fully transportable integrated package: No charge
Weight: 25 pounds (11.4 kilograms)
Size: 7 inches deep by 13 inches high by 16 inches wide
(17.5 cm by 32.5 cm by 40 cm)
Price: $4995.00
*HP-UX is Hewlett-Packard's implementation of the AT&T UNIX**
Operating System (The Integral is based on Bell System III).
**UNIX is a trademark of AT&T Technologies.
=================
Other goodies:
256K byte RAM card $ 695
512K byte RAM card 1495
RS-232C Serial Interface 195
300/1200 Baud modem card 595
Mouse 195
Bus expander 1495
Hard discs hook up to the HPIB (IEEE-488 interface), e.g.
9134D 14.8 Meg (formatted) $3040
Software:
Microsoft Multiplan $ 295
Memomaker (editor) 195
Calculator 75
C Compiler 295
HP-UX Technical Basic 295
Datacomm 150
Microtrak (Pert charter) 775
HP-UX Development system TBA
(Everything else in UNIX)
.
.
.
=================
Performance:
The following tables are derived from tests run here
and figures reported in the August 1984 issue of BYTE
in an article titled 'Benchmarking UNIX Systems'
written by David F. Hinnant.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Pipe 2. System Call 3. Func Call
Computer Version real user sys real user sys real
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VAX-11/750 4.1 BSD 4.6 0.2 2.1 7.0 0.9 6.2 1.7
=>Integral 12.1 0.1 12.1 12.1 0.3 11.9 1.7
IBM PC XT PC/IX 16.6 0.1 7.6 39.8 2.9 35.6 4.7
PDP-11/23 VENIX 30.0 0.1 9.5 24.0 3.2 20.4 3.3
TRS-80 16B XENIX 8.0 0.1 3.4 15.0 1.5 12.7 1.4
Apple Lisa SYS III+ 8.1 0.0 3.0 10.5 0.2 9.1 1.3
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4. Sieve 5a. Disc Write 5b. Disc read
Computer Version real user sys real real
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VAX-11/750 4.1 BSD 2.4 2.7 0.1 3.0 8.0
=>Integral 4.4 4.3 0.1 24.5 32.5
IBM PC XT PC/IX 8.2 7.8 0.3 11.6 20.7
PDP-11/23 VENIX 5.5 5.1 0.1 11.6 33.7
TRS-80 16B XENIX 6.0 4.8 0.3 8.0 22.0
Apple Lisa SYS III+ 6.1 5.3 0.1 20.8 44.5
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
6. Shell 7. Loop
Computer Version real user sys real user sys
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VAX-11/750 4.1 BSD 3.9 0.4 1.5 5.1 4.9 0.1
=>Integral 20.2 1.0 18.4 11.6 11.4 0.2
IBM PC XT PC/IX 8.5 1.1 3.2 32.2 31.5 0.3
PDP-11/23 VENIX 12.0 0.7 4.8 26.0 25.2 0.1
TRS-80 16B XENIX 18.0 0.4 2.6 14.0 12.5 0.5
Apple Lisa SYS III+ 37.6 0.4 3.2 14.0 14.9 0.2
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number of Concurrent processes
Computer Version 1 2 3 4 5
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VAX-11/750 4.1 BSD 4.3 5.5 8.8 10.3 13.3
=>Integral 14.6 28.2 40.0 55.7 1:08.8
IBM PC XT PC/IX 10.6 23.4 42.8 1:14.1 1:24.2
PDP-11/23 VENIX 14.0 32.8 - - -
TRS-80 16B XENIX 20.0 24.5 33.0 56.5 1:10.5
Apple Lisa SYS III+ 38.1 1:14.8 1:54.5 2:34.2 3:14.6
=====================================================
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