Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA78381 for pups-liszt; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:09:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from timaxp.trailing-edge.com (timaxp.trailing-edge.com [63.73.218.130]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA78377 for < PUPS@MINNIE.CS.ADFA.OZ.AU>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:09:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from SHOPPA@timaxp.trailing-edge.com) Received: by timaxp.trailing-edge.com for PUPS@MINNIE.CS.ADFA.OZ.AU; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:06:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:06:31 -0400 From: Tim Shoppa < SHOPPA@trailing-edge.com> To: PUPS@MINNIE.CS.ADFA.OZ.AU Message-Id: <000615210631.262000b2@trailing-edge.com> Subject: Bunch of Unix tapes rescued Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk On an Expedition to NJ Tuesday, I rescued about 3/4 of a ton of magtapes. Some of these will probably be interesting for the PUPS archive. In particular, I'm reading through seven of 'em tonight. If someone could explain to me how "Unix System V Release 2.0" and "Unix System III" work into the grand scheme of AT&T Unices already in the PUPS archive, and how 2.9.1 BSD might be different from (or the same as) the 2.9 BSD stuff already in the archive, I'd forever appreciate it :-). The first two tapes are AT&T Unix System V tapes for VAXen: Tape 1: AT&T 60462 Unix System V Release 2.0 VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750 TPName: Root and Selectables AT&T 60462 Dwg: j1p077c-3 List:1M1 TP No: OTP-1P550-01 IS: 2.0V2 Order: VX501404 Spec:000 Item:1 BPI 1600 Max Blksize: 05120 Files:0009 Date:01/13/86 Opr: jlc Drv: tu-2 Tape 2: AT&T 60463 Unix System V Release 2.0 VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750 TPName: USR File System AT&T 60463 Dwg: j1p077c-3 List:2m2 TP No: OTP-1P550-02 IS: 2.0V2 Order: UX501404 Spec:000 Item:1 BPI 1600 Max Blksize: 05120 Files:0009 Date:01/13/86 Opr: jlc Drv: tu-0 The third tape is UNIX System III from AT&T: Tape 3: UNIX* System III PDP 11/70,45 - 800 BPI Release Tape #1 *UNIX is a trademark of Bell Laboratories Restricted Rights Use Duplication or Disclosure is Subject To Restrictions Stated in your contract with American Telephone & Telegraph The Fourth and Fifth tape are either 2.9BSD or 2.9.1BSD (I can't tell the difference until I compare these tapes with the files already in the PUPS archives): Tape 4: Berkeley UNIX (Rev. 2.9.1) 2.9BSD Sun Nov 20 14:55:50 PST 1983 800 BPI HT/TM boot tape. For tar files skip the first 7 tape files with ``mt -t /dev/nrmt0 fsf 7'' Reel 1 of 2 Tape # Tape 5: Berkeley UNIX (Rev. 2.9.1) 2.9BSD Sun Nov 20 14:55:50 PST 1983 800 BPI Tar of /usr/src Reel 2 of 2 And Tapes 6 and 7 seem to be a complete distribution set of 4.2BSD, they ought to form a good replacement for the supposedly damaged and incomplete set in /Distributions/4bsd/4.2BSD. Tape 6: 4.2bsd VAX UNIX System 8/23/83 6 files on tape: 1 (boot stuff) 2 (mini root) 3 ((root dump) 4 (/sys) 5 (/usr) 6 (/usr/lib/vfont) last three are tar; 1600 bpi Tape 7: 4.2bsd VAX UNIX System 8/23/83 tape 2: 3 files on tape 1 (/usr/src) 2 (user contributed software) 3 (/usr/ingres) all files are tar; 1600 bpi Like I said, there's about 3/4 of a ton of tapes in total, I'm sure there are some other PUPS-related goodies deeper in the pile... -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa@trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA78621 for pups-liszt; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:06:55 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (henry.cs.adfa.edu.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA78617 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:06:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wkt@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.2/8.9.3) id MAA46483; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:04:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wkt) From: Warren Toomey < wkt@cs.adfa.edu.au> Message-Id: <200006160204.MAA46483@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Subject: Re: Bunch of Unix tapes rescued In-Reply-To: <000615210631.262000b2@trailing-edge.com> from Tim Shoppa at "Jun 15, 2000 9: 6:31 pm" To: SHOPPA@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:04:11 +1000 (EST) Cc: pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (Unix Heritage Society) Reply-To: wkt@cs.adfa.edu.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk In article by Tim Shoppa: > On an Expedition to NJ Tuesday, I rescued about 3/4 of a ton of magtapes. > Tape 1: > > AT&T 60462 > Unix System V Release 2.0 > VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750 > TPName: Root and Selectables Yes please, I have sysVR0 in the archive at the moment. > Tape 2: > AT&T 60463 > Unix System V Release 2.0 > VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750 > TPName: USR File System Yes please. Don't have it yet! > Tape 3: > UNIX* System III > PDP 11/70,45 - 800 BPI Could be the same as Distributions/usdl/SysIII, but read it anyway! > And Tapes 6 and 7 seem to be a complete distribution set of 4.2BSD, > they ought to form a good replacement for the supposedly damaged and > incomplete set in /Distributions/4bsd/4.2BSD. Again, yes please!!! Thanks Tim. Warren
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA81738 for pups-liszt; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:24:43 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from timaxp.trailing-edge.com (timaxp.trailing-edge.com [63.73.218.130]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA81734 for < PUPS@MINNIE.CS.ADFA.OZ.AU>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:24:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from SHOPPA@timaxp.trailing-edge.com) Received: by timaxp.trailing-edge.com for PUPS@MINNIE.CS.ADFA.OZ.AU; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 7:21:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 7:21:56 -0400 From: Tim Shoppa < SHOPPA@trailing-edge.com> To: PUPS@MINNIE.CS.ADFA.OZ.AU Message-Id: <000616072156.262000b2@trailing-edge.com> Subject: Yet Another "where does it fit" question Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk OK, I started sorting through some more piles of tapes, and I found a one more thing that I'm-not-quite-sure-where-it-fits: Two tapes labeled "Vol 1 of 2" and "Vol 2 of 2" and then "2.10.2 SMS Unix". Steven, does this mean you know what's on this and how it's different than the 2.10 and 2.10.1 stuff already in the archive? :-) Terry didn't remember... Also, more goodies that may (or may not) be appropriate to add: * A 4.3BSD-Reno VAX tape dated "1/2/91". I suppose I have to get down on my hands and knees and see how this differs from the version dated "30 Jul 90" currently in Distributions/4bsd/4.3BSD-Reno. This has the original UCB stickers on it. * A set of tar files on a tape claiming to be the "4.4BSD snapshot 4/1/92". Is PUPS/TUHS collecting anything anything this late? Is something like this already in Kirk's archive? Tim.
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA81919 for pups-liszt; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:03:25 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from ivan.Harhan.ORG (ivan.Harhan.ORG [207.55.197.4]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA81915 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:03:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msokolov@ivan.Harhan.ORG) Received: by ivan.Harhan.ORG (5.61.1.1/1.36) id AA00544; Fri, 16 Jun 00 06:59:26 CDT Date: Fri, 16 Jun 00 06:59:26 CDT From: msokolov@ivan.Harhan.ORG (Michael Sokolov) Message-Id: <0006161159.AA00544@ivan.Harhan.ORG> To: pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: Yet Another "where does it fit" question Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk Tim Shoppa < SHOPPA@trailing-edge.com> wrote: > * A 4.3BSD-Reno VAX tape dated "1/2/91". I suppose I have to get down > on my hands and knees and see how this differs from the version dated > "30 Jul 90" currently in Distributions/4bsd/4.3BSD-Reno. This has > the original UCB stickers on it. Yes. > * A set of tar files on a tape claiming to be the "4.4BSD snapshot > 4/1/92". Is PUPS/TUHS collecting anything anything this late? Is > something like this already in Kirk's archive? Kirk, you'll have to fill me in on this one. Is this the "4.4BSD-Alpha" I've seen mentioned in some places? In any case this is not on Kirk's CD-ROMs and I'll include it in my 4BSD collection. -- Michael Sokolov Harhan Engineering Laboratory Public Service Agent International Free Computing Task Force International Engineering and Science Task Force 615 N GOOD LATIMER EXPY STE #4 DALLAS TX 75204-5852 USA Phone: +1-214-824-7693 (Harhan Eng Lab office) E-mail: msokolov@ivan.Harhan.ORG (ARPA TCP/SMTP) (UUCP coming soon)
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA82759 for pups-liszt; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 00:09:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from timaxp.trailing-edge.com (timaxp.trailing-edge.com [63.73.218.130]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA82755 for < PUPS@MINNIE.CS.ADFA.OZ.AU>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 00:09:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from SHOPPA@timaxp.trailing-edge.com) Received: by timaxp.trailing-edge.com for PUPS@MINNIE.CS.ADFA.OZ.AU; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:07:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:07:07 -0400 From: Tim Shoppa < SHOPPA@trailing-edge.com> To: PUPS@MINNIE.CS.ADFA.OZ.AU Message-Id: <000616100707.2620009e@trailing-edge.com> Subject: 4.4BSD-Alpha Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk >> * A set of tar files on a tape claiming to be the "4.4BSD snapshot >> 4/1/92". Is PUPS/TUHS collecting anything anything this late? Is >> something like this already in Kirk's archive? >Kirk, you'll have to fill me in on this one. Is this the "4.4BSD-Alpha" I've >seen mentioned in some places? In any case this is not on Kirk's CD-ROMs and >I'll include it in my 4BSD collection. I found a separate tape, labeled "August 23, 1992", with a matching cover letter (signed by Kirk McKusick) saying "This is a distribution tape for the 4.4BSD-Alpha release ... The binaries and kernel on the tape support the HP 9000/300 68000-based workstations...". Is this the holy grail? I would guess the "4.4BSD snapshot 4/1/92" is pre-release. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa@trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927