Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03259 for pups-liszt; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:54:53 +1000 (EST) Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03253 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:54:48 +1000 (EST) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA02038 for pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:54:51 +1000 (EST) From: Warren Toomey < wkt@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Message-Id: <199809102354.JAA02038@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: CSRG CDs now available To: pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:54:51 +1000 (EST) Reply-To: wkt@cs.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk All, Kirk McKusick is back from his 3-week trip and is now shipping the 4CD set of BSD releases from the Computer Systems Research group. It covers all BSD versions from 1BSD to 4.4BSD and 4.4BSD-Lite2 (but not 2.11BSD, unfortunately). As well, the last disk holds the final sources plus the SCCS files. Details at http://www.mckusick.com/csrg/ Cheers, Warren
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12474 for pups-liszt; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:23:59 +1000 (EST) Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12469 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:23:55 +1000 (EST) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA01670 for pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:24:03 +1000 (EST) Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12438 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:12:10 +1000 (EST) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA01633 for pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:12:17 +1000 (EST) From: Warren Toomey < wkt@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Message-Id: <199809191112.VAA01633@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: Help Save 4BSD Boot Tapes! To: pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:12:17 +1000 (EST) Reply-To: wkt@cs.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk Many kudos to Kirk McKusick for making the entire BSD releases from the Computer Systems Research Group available on CD. However, many people are going to buy the CD set so they can install 4.3BSD on their personal Vax. Unfortunately, the 4CD set from Kirk does not contain any tape images (bootable or otherwise) which would allow any of the 4BSDs to be installed. Therefore, I'm asking anybody who might have old 4BSD tapes lying in a corner, or knows someone who might have old 4BSD tapes (or has heard a rumor about old 4BSD tapes etc.) to e-mail me with the details. If we can unearth any old 4BSD tapes, then I am sure there will be volunteers around who will be very happy to read the tapes, and I will make space for them alongside the other files and tape images in the PUPS archive. While I'm here, I might as well say that I'm still looking for any old PDP-11 versions of UNIX, or any applications written for early versions of UNIX, or anything machine-readable which is generally related to early versions of UNIX. Debbie Scherrer has just donated the Software Tools, and both Dennis Ritchie and Norman Wilson are slowly scanning in their paper copies of man pages for UNIX Editions 1 to 5. Many thanks in advance for your help in preserving the history of Unix. Warren
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26021 for pups-liszt; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:54:33 +1000 (EST) Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26016 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:54:29 +1000 (EST) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA22782 for pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:55:04 +1000 (EST) From: Warren Toomey < wkt@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Message-Id: <199810072255.IAA22782@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: Found 4BSD tapes at last To: pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:55:04 +1000 (EST) Reply-To: wkt@cs.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk ----- Forwarded message from Kirk McKusick ----- To: "J.S. Havard", Warren Toomey Subject: Found at Last My excavations on campus turned up six boxes of 9-track tapes containing most of the BSD distributions. In particular, I have found one labelled "4.3BSD Revision 2, Domestic Master" 6250bpi 3/4/87. There is also a similar tape (presumably revision 1) from about six months earlier. I do not have access to a 9-track tape drive, so I have no idea if the tape is even readable, but I am willing to mail it to someone who does have a 6250bpi drive that wants to take a crack at it. ~Kirk ----- End of forwarded message from Kirk McKusick ----- Would anybody near Kirk be prepared to read these tapes, gzip the tape records, type in any tape labels glued to the reels, and send the whole lot in to the PUPS archive?! Many thanks in advance for the help. Cheers, Warren
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03040 for pups-liszt; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:37:56 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [208.131.56.12]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03035 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:37:50 +1000 (EST) Received: by mail.calweb.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id HAA10516; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:37:34 -0700 (PDT) X-SMTP: helo rgc from rickgc@calweb.com server @sac12-67.calweb.com ip 207.211.93.67 user=rickgc Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981008074651.008fe690@pop.calweb.com> X-Sender: rickgc@pop.calweb.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 07:46:54 -0700 To: wkt@cs.adfa.oz.au, pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) From: Rick Copeland < rickgc@calweb.com> Subject: Re: Found 4BSD tapes at last Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk Where is Kirk located? If it is near California, I can do the work. Rick Copeland Information Systems Manager InterMag, Inc. At 08:55 AM 10/8/98 +1000, Warren Toomey wrote: >----- Forwarded message from Kirk McKusick ----- > >To: "J.S. Havard", Warren Toomey >Subject: Found at Last > >My excavations on campus turned up six boxes of 9-track tapes >containing most of the BSD distributions. In particular, I have >found one labelled "4.3BSD Revision 2, Domestic Master" 6250bpi >3/4/87. There is also a similar tape (presumably revision 1) from >about six months earlier. I do not have access to a 9-track tape >drive, so I have no idea if the tape is even readable, but I am >willing to mail it to someone who does have a 6250bpi drive that >wants to take a crack at it. > > ~Kirk > >----- End of forwarded message from Kirk McKusick ----- > >Would anybody near Kirk be prepared to read these tapes, gzip the >tape records, type in any tape labels glued to the reels, and send >the whole lot in to the PUPS archive?! > >Many thanks in advance for the help. > >Cheers, > Warren > >
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA03308 for pups-liszt; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:54:18 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [208.131.56.12]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA03303 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:54:12 +1000 (EST) Received: by mail.calweb.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA02188; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:54:01 -0700 (PDT) X-SMTP: helo rgc from rickgc@calweb.com server @sac15-90.calweb.com ip 207.211.87.90 user=rickgc Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981008090318.0090f520@pop.calweb.com> X-Sender: rickgc@pop.calweb.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 09:03:21 -0700 To: wkt@cs.adfa.oz.au, pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) From: Rick Copeland < rickgc@calweb.com> Subject: Re: Found 4BSD tapes at last Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk Warren, Apparently Kirk is only 60 to 70 miles away from me, so shipping or pickup on the week end is not a problem. Please contact Kirk and have him contact me. Rick Copeland Information Systems Manager InterMag, Inc. (916) 568-6744 x36
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA03449 for pups-liszt; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:50:07 +1000 (EST) Received: from flamingo.McKusick.COM (root@flamingo.mckusick.com [209.31.233.178]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03444 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:50:02 +1000 (EST) Received: from flamingo.McKusick.COM (mckusick@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flamingo.McKusick.COM (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09797; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199810081634.JAA09797@flamingo.McKusick.COM> To: Rick Copeland < rickgc@calweb.com> Subject: Re: Found 4BSD tapes at last cc: wkt@cs.adfa.oz.au, pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Oct 1998 09:03:21 PDT." <3.0.32.19981008090318.0090f520@pop.calweb.com> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 09:34:48 -0700 From: Kirk McKusick < mckusick@mckusick.com> Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 09:03:21 -0700 To: wkt@cs.adfa.oz.au, pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) From: Rick Copeland < rickgc@calweb.com> Subject: Re: Found 4BSD tapes at last Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Warren, Apparently Kirk is only 60 to 70 miles away from me, so shipping or pickup on the week end is not a problem. Please contact Kirk and have him contact me. Rick Copeland Information Systems Manager InterMag, Inc. (916) 568-6744 x36 Hi, I am located at: Kirk McKusick 1614 Oxford Street Berkeley, CA 94709-1608 I could mail you the tape, but I would prefer to find a way to get it to you that would minimize its being bounced around. Any ideas? Kirk McKusick
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04624 for pups-liszt; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:42:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04619 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:42:05 +1000 (EST) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA24785 for pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:42:46 +1000 (EST) From: Warren Toomey < wkt@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Message-Id: <199810082242.IAA24785@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: 4BSD tapes to be read To: pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:42:46 +1000 (EST) Reply-To: wkt@cs.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk All, Rick Copeland has arranged to pick the 4BSD tapes up from Kirk and read them this or next week. Thanks to all the people who volunteered, and hopefully copies of the tapes will be in the archive soon. Cheers, Warren
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA04919 for pups-liszt; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:28:57 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au: major set sender to owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu (root@celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.214]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04913 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:28:37 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu) Received: from k2.cwru.edu (k2.SCL.CWRU.Edu [129.22.32.50]) by celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu with SMTP (8.8.8+cwru/CWRU-3.4) id XAA16774; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:42:46 -0500 (EST) (from mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>) Received: from skybridge.scl.cwru.edu by k2.cwru.edu (8.6.12/SMI-SVR4) id XAA20111; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:46:23 -0500 Received: by skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA09098; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:55:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:55:23 -0500 From: mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu (Michael Sokolov) Message-Id: <199811120455.XAA09098@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu> To: pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Subject: 4.3BSD-Tahoe and 4.3BSD-Reno Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk Dear PUPS/TUHS members, I have converted the 4.3BSD-Tahoe and 4.3BSD-Reno tape images Rick has recently uploaded into a more convenient format. I haven't changed anything in the images themselves, I have simply repacked them from a single .zip into a collection of .gz's, one per tape file. I have also prepared a listing for every tarball. This stuff is in: /usr/home/msokolov/43tahoe.cci (4.3BSD-Tahoe with CCI binaries) /usr/home/msokolov/43reno.vax (4.3BSD-Reno with VAX binaries) That's on minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au. The permissions are set up so that pupsarc group members (UNIX source license holders) can read them, but no one else can. With Warren's permission, I would like to keep this stuff there until I set up my own FTP site, at which time I'll announce its location. The Reno images are perfect, but for Tahoe usr.tar.gz and src.tar.gz are bad (everything else is fine). Apparently Rick wasn't able to read past a tape defect (we are handling this in private E-mail). Have fun with this stuff! Sincerely, Michael Sokolov Phone: 440-449-0299 (Home) 216-217-2579 (Cellular) ARPA Internet SMTP mail: mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA04992 for pups-liszt; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:37:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au: major set sender to owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04987 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:36:57 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from wkt@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au) Received: (from wkt@localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05125 for pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:51:32 +1100 (EST) From: Warren Toomey < wkt@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Message-Id: <199811120451.PAA05125@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: Re: 4.3BSD-Tahoe and 4.3BSD-Reno Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:51:32 +1100 (EST) Cc: pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au In-Reply-To: <199811120455.XAA09098@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu> from Michael Sokolov at "Nov 11, 98 11:55:23 pm" Reply-To: wkt@cs.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk In article by Michael Sokolov: >I have converted the 4.3BSD-Tahoe and 4.3BSD-Reno tape images Rick has recently > uploaded into a more convenient format. I haven't changed anything in the > images themselves, I have simply repacked them from a single .zip into a > collection of .gz's, one per tape file. I have also prepared a listing for > every tarball. This stuff is in: > > /usr/home/msokolov/43tahoe.cci (4.3BSD-Tahoe with CCI binaries) > /usr/home/msokolov/43reno.vax (4.3BSD-Reno with VAX binaries) I'll move copies of Michael's 43tahoe.cci and 43reno.vax directories into the main PUPS archive area, in the Distributions/4bsd area. Warren
Received: (from major@localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA01355 for pups-liszt; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:58:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au: major set sender to owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from arthur.INS.CWRU.Edu (root@arthur.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.215]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA01347 for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:58:18 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu) Received: from k2.cwru.edu (k2.SCL.CWRU.Edu [129.22.32.50]) by arthur.INS.CWRU.Edu with SMTP (8.8.8+cwru/CWRU-3.4) id GAA22406; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:58:05 -0500 (EST) (from mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu for < pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au>) Received: from skybridge.scl.cwru.edu by k2.cwru.edu (8.6.12/SMI-SVR4) id GAA12387; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:56:43 -0500 Received: by skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA09705; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:05:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:05:43 -0500 From: mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu (Michael Sokolov) Message-Id: <199811131205.HAA09705@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu> To: pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Subject: 4.2BSD and 4.3BSD Sender: owner-pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk Dear PUPS/TUHS members, I have just uploaded the images from the 4.3BSD tapes I had read on CWRU's MVS mainframe back in June. They are perfect (the 1600 BPI tapes were read without any errors and the format is absolutely correct). Note, though, that this is the June 1986 4.3BSD release, and I remember Kirk saying that among the tapes Rick is reading there is one with 4.3BSD revision 2, which is presumably 4.3BSD with some bugs fixed. I have also put an honest effort into reconstructing the 4.2BSD tape images from the files in Distributions/4bsd/Per_Andersson_4.2. The latter have the boot/standalone system file (1st on the tape) broken, the tarball with /usr/src also broken, and the tarball with /usr/lib/vfont simply missing. I have manually repaired the boot/standalone system file (using my brain and a hex editor), but unfortunately /usr/src is broken beyond repair (so I didn't include it in my repackaging). I see no reason for the Varian/Versatec fonts to change between BSD releases, so /usr/lib/vfont from 4.3BSD will probably do fine. It would still be nice if Rick could read Kirk's 4.2BSD tapes, though. For practical use 4.3BSD completely supersedes it, but for historical purposes we should preserve 4.2BSD as well. This stuff is in: /usr/home/msokolov/42.vax (4.2BSD) /usr/home/msokolov/43.vax (4.3BSD) on minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au. (Warren, if you want to put this in the main PUPS archive, go ahead and do it for 43.vax, as it should be ready to be frozen, but I would hold on with 42.vax. Hopefully Rick will have some luck reading Kirk's tapes, and then I'll update the 42.vax directory by filling the missing pieces.) Sincerely, Michael Sokolov Phone: 440-449-0299 (Home) 216-217-2579 (Cellular) ARPA Internet SMTP mail: mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu