From: Leif Lindholm <l...@datessa.se>
Subject: Progress on Linux
Date: 1998/11/23
Message-ID: <fa.k4eqo9v.u64vgr@ifi.uio.no>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 414850947
Original-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:54:12 +0100 (CET)
Sender: owner-linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Original-Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.981123154308.6190A-100000@diana.datessa.se>
To: linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Organization: Internet mailing list
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: fa.linux.ibcs2
X-Loop: majord...@vger.rutgers.edu
Hello
I'm having trouble with Progress 8.2c on a Linux system with kernel
2.1.125 and ibcs-2.1-981017
Trying to start a server gives the following output on the console:
iBCS: STREAMS ioctl 046 unsupported
[567465]9546 Unsupported iBSC2 function 0xa6(mlddone)
iBCS: STREAMS ioctl 046 unsupported
iBCS: STREAMS ioctl 046 unsupported
iBCS: STREAMS ioctl 046 unsupported
iBCS: STREAMS ioctl 046 unsupported
iBCS: STREAMS ioctl 046 unsupported
And this is what is written to the terminal where you're trying to start
the server:
16:38:10 BROKER 0: Multi-user session begin. (333)
16:38:19 BROKER 0: Unable to create socket, errno=2. (788)
16:38:19 BROKER 0: Begin normal shutdown (2248)
16:38:20 BROKER 0: Multi-user session end. (334)
16:38:20 SERVER : ** The server terminated with exit code 2. (800)
Does anyone have any idea what the problem is?
/
Leif
From: Mike Jagdis <ja...@purplet.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Progress on Linux
Date: 1998/11/26
Message-ID: <fa.mc3i09v.u7edp2@ifi.uio.no>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 415812729
Original-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:25:48 +0000 (GMT/BST)
Sender: owner-linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Original-Message-ID:
<Pine.LNX.3.91.981124231350.23067A-100000@purplet.jaggycraft.co.uk>
References: <fa.k4eqo9v.u64vgr@ifi.uio.no>
To: Leif Lindholm <l...@datessa.se>
X-Sender: ja...@purplet.jaggycraft.co.uk
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Organization: Internet mailing list
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: fa.linux.ibcs2
X-Loop: majord...@vger.rutgers.edu
On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Leif Lindholm wrote:
> I'm having trouble with Progress 8.2c on a Linux system with kernel
> 2.1.125 and ibcs-2.1-981017
There is a newer iBCS on ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/BETA/ibcs2/
> [567465]9546 Unsupported iBSC2 function 0xa6(mlddone)
mlddone is an SVR4 system call which implies, probably, a Unixware
binary. I've never seen mlddone documented, I don't have an OS
that has the call (as far as I know) and I don't know when or
why it might be called...
> iBCS: STREAMS ioctl 046 unsupported
046 isn't in any OS I have. It is presumably something new(ish)
in Unixware.
> Does anyone have any idea what the problem is?
That's the easy one :-).
The problem is that I don't have Unixware (well, nothing more
recent than 1.1 anyway) and I don't have the resources to get
it up and running on something if I had. Right now I can't
sink any more of my money into iBCS so it's unlikely to change
in the near future.
Mike
--
.----------------------------------------------------------------------.
| Mike Jagdis | Internet: ja...@purplet.demon.co.uk |
| 280, Silverdale Road, Earley, | Voice: +44 118 926 6996 |
| Reading RG6 7NU ENGLAND | Work: +44 118 989 0403 |
`----------------------------------------------------------------------'
From: "Christian Groessler" <c...@aladdin.de>
Subject: Re: Progress on Linux
Date: 1998/11/26
Message-ID: <fa.hci44lv.1cn84o8@ifi.uio.no>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 415917639
Original-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:18:51 +0100
Sender: owner-linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Original-Message-ID: <412566C8.003D54D1.00@saturn.aladdin.de>
To: ja...@purplet.demon.co.uk
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Organization: Internet mailing list
X-Lotus-FromDomain: AKS
Mime-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: fa.linux.ibcs2
X-Loop: majord...@vger.rutgers.edu
Hello,
>
>> [567465]9546 Unsupported iBSC2 function 0xa6(mlddone)
>
>mlddone is an SVR4 system call which implies, probably, a Unixware
>binary. I've never seen mlddone documented, I don't have an OS
>that has the call (as far as I know) and I don't know when or
>why it might be called...
This reminds me: I just spent some time trying to get a SVR4 binary to
work with iBCS. It always crashed with a segfault when it accessed the
environment. I was already giving up when I had the idea: I tried with
a UnixWare libc and it worked! (giving the same message as above
regarding mlddone, but the app seems to work...).
I previously tried with the libc with comes with iBCS (in the same
directroy
on the ftp), which works fine for SCO 3.2 binaries but doesn't seem to work
for
other stuff.
I suggest adding a paragraph in the README, telling people to use
the original libc for SRV4/Unixware binaries.
It would have saved me much time.
regards,
chris
From: Thomas Good <t...@nrnet.org>
Subject: Re: Progress on Linux
Date: 1998/11/26
Message-ID: <fa.m690rpv.ckuq1a@ifi.uio.no>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 415972217
Original-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:33:53 -0500 (EST)
Sender: owner-linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Original-Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.981126090352.11882A-100000@mailhost.nrnet.org>
References: <fa.mc3i09v.u7edp2@ifi.uio.no>
To: Mike Jagdis <ja...@purplet.demon.co.uk>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Organization: Internet mailing list
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: fa.linux.ibcs2
X-Loop: majord...@vger.rutgers.edu
On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Mike Jagdis wrote:
> The problem is that I don't have Unixware (well, nothing more
> recent than 1.1 anyway) and I don't have the resources to get
> it up and running on something if I had. Right now I can't
> sink any more of my money into iBCS so it's unlikely to change
> in the near future.
>
> Mike
RE: Progress (ver 7.3A09)...I try every so often when a new iBCS2 comes out.
I can run the editor (an ADE) and the dictionary (a DBA interface for the
DDL subset of SQL) without mishap. But trying to connect to a db (even one
created under emulation) fails. This port runs on UW from 1.1 to UW 7.
Could be I'm jumping through the wrong hoop...the fact is ver 7.3C16
(SCO Port) works so well with iBCS2 that I call it the `Linux Port'.
And so I do not lose sleep over the UW port...still I'd like to see it
get happy on Linux - and BSD. Progress runs rather well on FreeBSD
however, the version of iBCS2 is a bit antiquated. I'm assuming this
is an issue for freebsd-current, not you, but out of curiousity:
did you provide iBCS2 or did the code get stuck in the BSD tree by the
development team?
Regarding UnixWare, 1.1 was fond of kernel panics on shutdown. Principally
due to Novell's inability to hack AT&T kernel src. Something they steadfastly
denied until shortly after selling the code to SCO (and taking a beating in
doing so.) Ex Post Facto, they acknowledged that they essentially released
beta kernel code as a finished product. Their hacks probably exacerbated
the existing problems...
The point: UW 2.1.2 has much tighter kernel src and is a stable release.
It was available for free from www.sco.com...albeit only a single usr licence.
However, UnixWare 7 is now being given out with this month's SCO World.
Haven't read the docs yet but a colleague tells me it is a 5 usr licence.
Might be worth your while to grab a copy - and lose 1.1. BTW, the problems
with 1.1 continued on into 2.01 - and were never resolved by Novell. SCO
has done a decent job with UW (altho they do salami slicing with the
licences, e.g., Morningstar PPP, Merge [DOS], Netscape, et al.)
You may want to lose UW 1.1 in favour of 7. It may get more market share
soon - with Intel, IBM and SCO signing a contract (rather than a letter
of intent) to produce a new version to run on Intel's merced chip and
integrate AIX into the tree where applicable. IBM is already selling UW
as its enterprise Unix on Intel OS.
There is an official free version which means it will linger and not exist
as a time limited offer. If you can't get one - you can have mine.
BTW, it runs on ide boxes (i486 +) - and installs off of ATAPI cdroms.
I'd send you a box with UW installed but probably couldn't afford the
postage. ;-)
----------- Sisters of Charity Medical Center ----------
Department of Psychiatry
----
Thomas Good, System Administrator <t...@q8.nrnet.org>
North Richmond CMHC/Residential Services Phone: 718-354-5528
75 Vanderbilt Ave, Quarters 8 Fax: 718-354-5056
Staten Island, NY 10304 www.panix.com/~ugd
----
Powered by PostgreSQL 6.3.2 / Perl 5.004 / DBI-0.91::DBD-PG-0.69
From: Mike Jagdis <ja...@purplet.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Progress on Linux
Date: 1998/11/29
Message-ID: <fa.nv045lv.m2gdau@ifi.uio.no>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 416766610
Original-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 15:24:21 +0000 (GMT/BST)
Sender: owner-linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Original-Message-ID:
<Pine.LNX.3.91.981128152206.5090D-100000@purplet.jaggycraft.co.uk>
References: <fa.hci44lv.1cn84o8@ifi.uio.no>
To: Christian Groessler <c...@aladdin.de>
X-Sender: ja...@purplet.jaggycraft.co.uk
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Organization: Internet mailing list
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: fa.linux.ibcs2
X-Loop: majord...@vger.rutgers.edu
On Thu, 26 Nov 1998, Christian Groessler wrote:
> This reminds me: I just spent some time trying to get a SVR4 binary to
> work with iBCS. It always crashed with a segfault when it accessed the
> environment. I was already giving up when I had the idea: I tried with
> a UnixWare libc and it worked! (giving the same message as above
> regarding mlddone, but the app seems to work...).
>
> I previously tried with the libc with comes with iBCS (in the same
> directroy
> on the ftp), which works fine for SCO 3.2 binaries but doesn't seem to work
> for
> other stuff.
Eric's old ELF libc replacement needs some patches to the
dynamic loader in it. It's been unmaintained for years...
Mike
--
.----------------------------------------------------------------------.
| Mike Jagdis | Internet: ja...@purplet.demon.co.uk |
| 280, Silverdale Road, Earley, | Voice: +44 118 926 6996 |
| Reading RG6 7NU ENGLAND | Work: +44 118 989 0403 |
`----------------------------------------------------------------------'
From: Mike Jagdis <ja...@purplet.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Progress on Linux
Date: 1998/11/29
Message-ID: <fa.o00a5dv.n2adir@ifi.uio.no>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 416766611
Original-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:35:24 +0000 (GMT/BST)
Sender: owner-linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Original-Message-ID:
<Pine.LNX.3.91.981128161428.5090G-100000@purplet.jaggycraft.co.uk>
References: <fa.m690rpv.ckuq1a@ifi.uio.no>
To: Thomas Good <t...@nrnet.org>
X-Sender: ja...@purplet.jaggycraft.co.uk
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-ib...@vger.rutgers.edu
Organization: Internet mailing list
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: fa.linux.ibcs2
X-Loop: majord...@vger.rutgers.edu
On Thu, 26 Nov 1998, Thomas Good wrote:
> RE: Progress (ver 7.3A09)...I try every so often when a new iBCS2 comes out.
> I can run the editor (an ADE) and the dictionary (a DBA interface for the
> DDL subset of SQL) without mishap. But trying to connect to a db (even one
> created under emulation) fails. This port runs on UW from 1.1 to UW 7.
Do you have a trace of what happens?
> Progress runs rather well on FreeBSD
> however, the version of iBCS2 is a bit antiquated. I'm assuming this
> is an issue for freebsd-current, not you, but out of curiousity:
> did you provide iBCS2 or did the code get stuck in the BSD tree by the
> development team?
I knew they claimed the ability to run SCO binaries. I didn't
know it was derived from iBCS. Do you have a reference?
If they _have_ placed iBCS in their kernel they have a licensing
problem. As the BSD guys have pointed out in the past the BSD license
and GPL are fundamentally incompatible. That could be seriously
bad for anyone with commercial products derived from FreeBSD...
> You may want to lose UW 1.1 in favour of 7.
The only reason I've got UW1 is because we decided to take a
look at it long ago - for about 30 seconds longer than it
took to install :-). The Wyse systems have been retired and the only
access I have to SCO machines now is on customer sites. All our
machines run Linux now with iBCS hosted SCO apps and compilers.
Every major Unix vendor seems to offer their OS free for
"personal" use these days but with nothing to install them on
there is no way to find out how the real thing behaves or
probe un (or poorly) documented calls. This is, I guess, the
price of success :-(.
Mike
--
.----------------------------------------------------------------------.
| Mike Jagdis | Internet: ja...@purplet.demon.co.uk |
| 280, Silverdale Road, Earley, | Voice: +44 118 926 6996 |
| Reading RG6 7NU ENGLAND | Work: +44 118 989 0403 |
`----------------------------------------------------------------------'
|