Re: More on Indexing and Moving one higher than HTML etc

Rick Troth (troth@rice.edu)
Thu, 4 Aug 1994 12:43:02 -0500 (CDT)

> > I talked about wanting to keep certain information in a file that may or may
> > not be transparent (author, owner, keywords etc) and the more I think about
> > it the more that I can see that people **wont** add this information to the
> > files. After all why should they? It wont show up at the page view level so
> > people tend look at the wider implications. How can we find a way, without
> > inventing a submissions system, to enforce people to use this information.
>
> Well, I don't see why I'd want to --- ever. After all, my Unix box already
> stamps the time and date that I edited the thing, plasters my userid on it,
> plus has permissions associated with it to show who can edit it. The server
> should be able to generate that (I know that my server already does a stat on
> the file before sending).

It'd be useful if the server took everything (EVERYTHING) that it
gets from stat() and stuffed that into the HTTP header returned. But ...
Dave are you telling me that you don't want to "sign your work"? Bad.

I've already got stuff being cached at multiple sites.
The UNIX timestamp reflects the cache time, not the real update time.
The UNIX owner might very well not be me; in fact, I might not have
an account on the caching/mirroring host.

> > people tend look at the wider implications. How can we find a way,
> > without inventing a submissions system, to enforce people to use
> > this information.

http://www.willamette.edu/html-composition/strict-html.html

and in particular

http://www.willamette.edu/html-composition/strict-html-gp.html#sigs

I don't think we *can* enforce it. I think the best we can do
is encourage everyone we come in contact with to "write goot HTML".

> --
> daves@vt.edu 

-- 
Rick Troth <troth@rice.edu>, Rice University, Information Systems