Call For Discussion on HTML/HTML+ design
Daniel W. Connolly (connolly@hal.com)
Tue, 15 Feb 1994 19:46:45 --100
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[I apologize for the wide distribution of this notice, but I need
to start getting this discussion archived, and www-talk has a
handy hypertext archive.]
The WWW project has recently experienced TREMENDOUS growth, and there
has been a lot of discussion lately about HTML standardization. The
current IETF draft specification of HTML has is expiring, and it's
time to replace it.
Attached are
(1) an mh-alias file that I'm using to define the forum.
(2) an edited collection of misc articles and relavent specs
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# HTML design discussion forum...
html-design: Dan Connolly -- HTML draft spec author <connolly@hal.com>,\
Tim Berners-Lee -- WWW Project Lead <timbl@info.cern.ch>,\
Dale Dougherty -- GNN Publisher <dale@ora.com>,\
Dave_Raggett -- HTML+ draft spec author <dsr@hplb.hpl.hp.com>,\
Dave Hollander -- SDL designer <dmh@hpfcma.fc.hp.com>,\
Elliot Kimber -- HyTime advocate <kimber@passage.com>,\
Peter Flynn -- HTML educator<pflynn@curia.ucc.ie>,\
Rob McCool -- NCSA representative<robm@ncsa.uiuc.edu>,\
Erik Naggum -- SGML advocate <enag@ifi.uio.no>,\
WWW Talk List -- Archive Mechanism <www-talk@info.cern.ch>
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HTML Successor Design Notebook
Daniel W. Connolly <connolly@hal.com>
$Id: html_design.html,v 1.3 1994/02/15 18:35:08 connolly Exp connolly $
Background
- The World Wide Web Initiative: The Project
- http://i=
nfo.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html
- People involved in the WorldWideWeb project
- http://info.=
cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/People.html
Current (Published Normative) Specs
- IETF draft spec of text/html content-type
- ftp://ds.internic.net/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iiir-html-01.txt<=
/A>
- Remote file 15.254.100.100/pub/htmlplus.dtd.txt
- ftp://15.254.100=
.100/pub/htmlplus.dtd.txt
Current (Informative Changing) specs
- HyperText Mark-up Language
- http:=
//info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/MarkUp/MarkUp.html
- How to write HTML files
- http://curia.ucc=
.ie/info/net/htmldoc.html
Meetings
- WWW-TEI Meeting 19-20th November 1993
- http:/=
/itdsrv1.ul.ie/Research/WWW/cork_tei_www.html
Discussion
- WWW Talk hypertext archive
- htt=
p://gummo.stanford.edu/html/hypermail/archives.html
- comp.text.sgml index
- wais://ifi.uio.no/comp.te=
xt.sgml
- Remote file ds.internic.net/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iiir-html-01.tx=
t
- ftp://ds.internic.net/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iiir-html-01.txt<=
/A>
- Re: WWW and Hytime (was Explicit Linking is Impossible)
- wais://ifi.uio.no/comp.text.sgml/TEXT/11048/1=3Difi.uio.no%3A=
210;2=3D/local/ftp/lib/wais/comp.text.sgml;3=3D0%2011048%20/local/ftp/pub/=
SGML/comp.text.sgml/by.msgid/19930511.074728.98%40almaden.ibm.com;4=3Difi.=
uio.no%3A210;5=3D/local/ftp/lib/wais/comp.text.sgml;6=3D0%2011048%20/local=
/ftp/pub/SGML/comp.text.sgml/by.msgid/19930511.074728.98%40almaden.ibm.com=
;7=3D%00;
- WWW and Hytime %28was Explicit Linking is Impossible%29 (in comp.text.=
sgml)
- wais://ifi.uio.no/comp.text.sgml?WWW+and+Hy=
time+%28was+Explicit+Linking+is+Impossible%29
- WEK: HTML DTD and HyTime
- wais://ifi.uio.no/comp.text.sgml/TEXT/12392/1=3Difi.uio.no%3A=
210;2=3D/local/ftp/lib/wais/comp.text.sgml;3=3D0%2012392%20/local/ftp/pub/=
SGML/comp.text.sgml/by.msgid/19930524.152345.29%40almaden.ibm.com;4=3Difi.=
uio.no%3A210;5=3D/local/ftp/lib/wais/comp.text.sgml;6=3D0%2012392%20/local=
/ftp/pub/SGML/comp.text.sgml/by.msgid/19930524.152345.29%40almaden.ibm.com=
;7=3D%00;
- Request for a valid HTML.DTD @ CERN
- wais://ifi.uio.no=
/comp.text.sgml/TEXT/12992/1=3Difi.uio.no%3A210;2=3D/local/ftp/lib/wais/co=
mp.text.sgml;3=3D0%2012992%20/local/ftp/pub/SGML/comp.text.sgml/by.msgid/4=
E74%40cernvm.cern.ch;4=3Difi.uio.no%3A210;5=3D/local/ftp/lib/wais/comp.tex=
t.sgml;6=3D0%2012992%20/local/ftp/pub/SGML/comp.text.sgml/by.msgid/4E74%40=
cernvm.cern.ch;7=3D%00;
Related Specs
- internet-drafts/draft-levinson-sgml-00.txt
- ftp://ds.internic.net/internet-drafts/draft-levinson-sgml-00.txt
Related Projects
- GNN Home Page
- http://nearnet.gnn=
.com/gnn/GNNhome.html
Notes on Tools
This document was composed by:
- Reading news with GNUS on lemacs at an X terminal, saving articles in=
mh-mail folders
- Browsing the comp.text.sgml archive with the emacs interface
to WAIS over a dial-up connection.
- Retracing my steps with Mosiac and creating a hot-list.
- Mailing the hotlist to myself to get it into HTML.
- Editing the resulting hotlist with html-mode in lemacs.
- Validating the result with sgmls and a local copy of the HTML DTD.
- Archiving the result locally with RCS
- Using mhn to build a MIME message out of the results.
It's too bad that a lot of the audit trail gets lost when building
these things. For example, I've coded links to some USENET news
articles as WAIS URL's. Even though I know the message-id of the news
article and some of my readers may have copies of those articles
locally, I cannot express the link to them in HTML.
It's also too bad that the hotlist feature of Mosiac doesn't use HTML
in the first place.
These are things I hope we fix soon.
I tried to use www -listrefs to generate a plaintext version, but
I couldn't get it to work like I wanted... I think I gotta get tkWWW
installed around here!
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