From: efr...@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Beth Frank)
Subject: NCSA httpd 1.4 Beta Test
Date: 1995/04/11
Message-ID: <3meu0l$pd5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>#1/1
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organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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Several people have requested more information on the NCSA beta.
I'm re-posting the information since the official release has
been delayed, because we've run into some further problems.
(That's what a Beta test is for right? :^) I urge people to
wait for the official release. It will be available as soon
as we're sure we've solved the Solaris problem.
To get a copy of NCSA httpd 1.4 beta, you must register at
http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/httpd-beta/beta-reg.html
You only need to enter the form once. Write down your assigned login.
Once you have registered you are added to the mailing list for update
announcements. You can then pick up later updates through
http://hoohoo/httpd-beta/bin/binaries.html
The bug reporting process for the Beta is generally available if
you wish to monitor our progress. The HyperNews page is
http://union.ncsa.uiuc.edu/HyperNews/get/www/httpd-beta.html
Please do NOT post complaints or problems unless you are participating
in the beta test. We will not be adding new features at this late date.
Once the beta test is complete we will be setting up a HyperNews page
for suggestions, bug reports and enhancement requests. Please wait for
that page to add general commentary on the NCSA httpd.
--
-Elizabeth Frank (efr...@ncsa.uiuc.edu)
The NCSA httpd Development Team
From: a...@Ra.MsState.Edu (Atif Ahmad Khan)
Subject: Re: NCSA httpd 1.4 Beta Test
Date: 1995/04/11
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organization: Mississippi State University
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efr...@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Beth Frank) writes:
>Several people have requested more information on the NCSA beta.
>I'm re-posting the information since the official release has
>been delayed, because we've run into some further problems.
>(That's what a Beta test is for right? :^) I urge people to
>wait for the official release. It will be available as soon
>as we're sure we've solved the Solaris problem.
^^^^^^^
You guys shouldn't bee too worried about Solaris. Its probably not your
fault :) If it works under Linux, its good enough.
Atif Khan
From: Rob Hartill <hartill>
Subject: Re: NCSA httpd 1.4 Beta Test
Date: 1995/04/12
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I'm hijacking this thread in order to dangle this
http://www.hyperreal.com/apache/
URL in front of some eyes.
Send your questions to /dev/null
From: efr...@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Beth Frank)
Subject: Re: NCSA httpd 1.4 Beta Test
Date: 1995/04/12
Message-ID: <3mgu9k$nco@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 100370820
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organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.providers
Atif Ahmad Khan (a...@Ra.MsState.Edu) wrote:
: You guys shouldn't bee too worried about Solaris. Its probably not your
: fault :) If it works under Linux, its good enough.
: Atif Khan
Well it works under Linux, but you don't get all the performance improvements
because Linux doesn't support file descriptor passing. (item #24 on the
beta bug reports page.)
--
-Elizabeth Frank (efr...@ncsa.uiuc.edu)
The NCSA httpd Development Team
From: snowh...@xmission.xmission.com (Snowhare)
Subject: Re: NCSA httpd 1.4 Beta Test
Date: 1995/04/12
Message-ID: <3mgvcc$k61@xmission.xmission.com>#1/1
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organization: High Mountain Warren
reply-to: snowh...@xmission.com (Snowhare)
newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.providers
Atif Ahmad Khan wrote in article <aak2.797638...@Ra.MsState.Edu>:
> efr...@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Beth Frank) writes:
> >Several people have requested more information on the NCSA beta.
> >I'm re-posting the information since the official release has
> >been delayed, because we've run into some further problems.
> >(That's what a Beta test is for right? :^) I urge people to
> >wait for the official release. It will be available as soon
> >as we're sure we've solved the Solaris problem.
> ^^^^^^^
> You guys shouldn't bee too worried about Solaris. Its probably not your
> fault :) If it works under Linux, its good enough.
I know you were injecting a bit of humor, but keep in mind that at
XMission it meant the difference bewteen using 1.4b and laying out around
$1,500 for the Netscape Communications server. XMission simply could not
support the number of hits they get on 1.3 anymore and 1.4b choked badly on
Solaris. They bought Netscape after trying 1.4b.
Small bugs can cost real money.
--
Benjamin Franz
From: efr...@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Beth Frank)
Subject: Re: NCSA httpd 1.4 Beta Test
Date: 1995/04/12
Message-ID: <3mh241$nco@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>#1/1
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organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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Snowhare (snowh...@xmission.xmission.com) wrote:
: I know you were injecting a bit of humor, but keep in mind that at
: XMission it meant the difference bewteen using 1.4b and laying out around
: $1,500 for the Netscape Communications server. XMission simply could not
: support the number of hits they get on 1.3 anymore and 1.4b choked badly on
: Solaris. They bought Netscape after trying 1.4b.
: Small bugs can cost real money.
: Benjamin Franz
I'm sorry XMission couldn't wait. We've solved most of the big problems
running on Solaris, but are not yet willing to say it's OK. We're
now on version 4 of the beta. That is after all the point of a beta
test, to find the problems on platforms we can't easily test here at
NCSA. The beta test has only been running for 3 weeks. I firmly
believe that it is better to have a longer beta test than to come out
with a large number of patches shortly after a general release.
--
-Elizabeth Frank (efr...@ncsa.uiuc.edu)
The NCSA httpd Development Team
From: snowh...@xmission.xmission.com (Snowhare)
Subject: Re: NCSA httpd 1.4 Beta Test
Date: 1995/04/12
Message-ID: <3mhfss$6dc@xmission.xmission.com>#1/1
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organization: High Mountain Warren
reply-to: snowh...@xmission.com (Snowhare)
newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.providers
Beth Frank wrote in article <3mh241$...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>:
> I'm sorry XMission couldn't wait. We've solved most of the big problems
> running on Solaris, but are not yet willing to say it's OK. We're
> now on version 4 of the beta. That is after all the point of a beta
> test, to find the problems on platforms we can't easily test here at
> NCSA. The beta test has only been running for 3 weeks. I firmly
> believe that it is better to have a longer beta test than to come out
> with a large number of patches shortly after a general release.
Oh, I happen to agree. And a few weeks after the main release, when the
last few major bugs have been found and stomped on, I will not hesitate to
use 1.4 on some other systems I support. I happen to like the software
overall. At XMission though, it was a matter of survival.
--
Benjamin Franz
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