Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!samsung!cg-atla!millipore!blu
From: b...@millipore.uucp (Brian Utterback)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Which should I use? B or C?
Message-ID: <1989Nov6.195132.4345@millipore.uucp>
Date: 6 Nov 89 19:51:32 GMT
Reply-To: b...@millipore.UUCP (Brian Utterback)
Organization: Millipore Corporation
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Posted: Mon Nov 6 20:51:32 1989
I am a system administrator with a lot of experience reading news but very
little being a news administrator.
Anyway, I am in the process of bringing up news at our site, and I need to
decide which version to use, B news, C News, or Notes. I have already acquired
the software for all three and have installed C news, thinking that it was a
new improved news. However, it seems that C news is an efficency rewrite of
B news at some point in time. Since the majority of the net is using B news and
patches are issued periodically, it seems as if it may actually be the better
choice. Are there any other choices or issues? I am not on internet so nntp
is out.
Brian Utterback
{bu-tyng,wang,merk,cg-atla}!millipore!blu
(617)275-9200x8245
Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!ateng!chip
From: c...@ateng.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Which should I use? B or C?
Message-ID: <2556F50F.5024@ateng.com>
Date: 7 Nov 89 15:30:22 GMT
References: <1989Nov6.195132.4345@millipore.uucp>
Organization: A T Engineering, Tampa, FL
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Posted: Tue Nov 7 16:30:22 1989
According to b...@millipore.uucp (Brian Utterback):
>However, it seems that C news is an efficency rewrite of
>B news at some point in time.
Not at all. It's new code.
>Since the majority of the net is using B news and patches are issued
>periodically, it seems as if it may actually be the better choice.
C News doesn't need so many patches. That's a feature, not a bug.
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Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!rick
From: r...@uunet.UU.NET (Rick Adams)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Which should I use? B or C?
Summary: reality check
Message-ID: <71588@uunet.UU.NET>
Date: 7 Nov 89 17:53:07 GMT
References: <1989Nov6.195132.4345@millipore.uucp> <2556F50F.5024@ateng.com>
Organization: UUNET Communications Services, Falls Church, VA
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Posted: Tue Nov 7 18:53:07 1989
> >Since the majority of the net is using B news and patches are issued
> >periodically, it seems as if it may actually be the better choice.
>
> C News doesn't need so many patches. That's a feature, not a bug.
Time for a reality break.
Bnews 3 years since release 19 patches 1.9 months between patches
Cnews 6 months since release 6 patches 1 month between patches
If you want to use that metric, Cnews is getting patched twice as
often as B news.
Patch count is a totally usless metric (rn is up to 40. What does that
prove?)
If you want to pick on Bnews, pick on the 2 years out of date documentation
or the speed, but not the number of patches.
I'm making this comparison with Cnews not to claim that its twice
as buggy as Bnews or some other contrived comparision but to show
how useless a patch count is in rating anything.
Reasons to use B news:
known evil (i.e. lots of people you can ask for help)
O'Reilly "Managing UUCP and USENET" book available
Reasons to use C news:
faster, smaller
Important Distinctions:
If you're used to how B news works, C news is different. This
may cause you confusion. If you've never used news
before, Cnews is fine.
---rick
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From: he...@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Which should I use? B or C?
Message-ID: <1989Nov7.195853.4426@utzoo.uucp>
Date: 7 Nov 89 19:58:53 GMT
References: <1989Nov6.195132.4345@millipore.uucp>
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
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Posted: Tue Nov 7 20:58:53 1989
In article <1989Nov6.195132.4...@millipore.uucp> b...@millipore.UUCP (Brian Utterback) writes:
>... have installed C news, thinking that it was a
>new improved news. However, it seems that C news is an efficency rewrite of
>B news at some point in time...
That's not a trivial thing in itself, and we did include a few new features
like the expire control file. But basically C News doesn't make any radical
departures in user interface from B News -- we didn't think it was worth it.
If you're running C News, you definitely want one of the spiffy news readers,
like "rn", as your primary user interface. (We'd have been interested in
including rn in C News, actually, except it would have doubled the size of
the distribution!)
>Since the majority of the net is using B news and
>patches are issued periodically, it seems as if it may actually be the better
>choice...
The percentage using C News is growing, and we do issue patches periodically
for it (somewhat to our unhappiness -- we'd hoped it wouldn't need quite
so much retrospective fixing).
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